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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.failedparadise.com/2008/09/6-signs-fiji-is-nearing-civilization-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, the bit to re-read was &lt;em&gt;&quot;Look at this as merely an observation more tongue in cheek then mirror reality, and make your own hypothesis from there.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m not being super serious. This isn&#039;t THE FACTZORS. All for a little fun. So chill. The way you were listing all those points sounded like you were - oh. &#039;Some Angry Fiji Indian Guy.&#039; Should have known you&#039;d be slliiighhtly pissed.

Remember, the article is about a tourist&#039;s POV when they arrive in Fiji. You&#039;ve raised all good points about Fiji and what it has. But it&#039;s nowhere near as plentiful as what they got overseas, in terms of 1st world access to...everything else. Mostly materialistic though, but that was my point.

I&#039;m not saying I&#039;m not proud to be a Fijian. Hell no. I love my country just as much as any non-migrating local does (ooooh low blow). What I&#039;m saying is that when someone from a 1st world country comes to Fiji, they will see a few familiar merchandising sights, maybe experience a few cool air-con creature comforts, and nod their heads and say, &quot;Yep. Fiji is definitely...improving.&quot;

Yes we have all of what you&#039;ve listed. But we&#039;re still not 1st World Country material. Not yet.

But hey. Who gives a fuck. I&#039;m just fine with my Fiji Bitter and my nightclub (which mind you, is actually a Bar with dancing space. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.niagarafallscomfort.com/wp-content/themes/ci/images/rumours-nightclub.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;THIS&lt;/a&gt;, on the other hand...is a Nightclub.)

PS: That HBO bit was a joke. But seriously...we really need to get HBO. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com.fj/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=4&amp;ved=0CCsQFjAD&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hbo.com%2Fthe-pacific%2Findex.html&amp;ei=Rv0NTJjUKNS6nAegmvnHDQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNEjTUv4Qd59vCISd_mlBTEWIzoCRg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;The Pacific&quot;&lt;/a&gt; was some great shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, the bit to re-read was <em>&#8220;Look at this as merely an observation more tongue in cheek then mirror reality, and make your own hypothesis from there.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not being super serious. This isn&#8217;t THE FACTZORS. All for a little fun. So chill. The way you were listing all those points sounded like you were &#8211; oh. &#8216;Some Angry Fiji Indian Guy.&#8217; Should have known you&#8217;d be slliiighhtly pissed.</p>
<p>Remember, the article is about a tourist&#8217;s POV when they arrive in Fiji. You&#8217;ve raised all good points about Fiji and what it has. But it&#8217;s nowhere near as plentiful as what they got overseas, in terms of 1st world access to&#8230;everything else. Mostly materialistic though, but that was my point.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying I&#8217;m not proud to be a Fijian. Hell no. I love my country just as much as any non-migrating local does (ooooh low blow). What I&#8217;m saying is that when someone from a 1st world country comes to Fiji, they will see a few familiar merchandising sights, maybe experience a few cool air-con creature comforts, and nod their heads and say, &#8220;Yep. Fiji is definitely&#8230;improving.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes we have all of what you&#8217;ve listed. But we&#8217;re still not 1st World Country material. Not yet.</p>
<p>But hey. Who gives a fuck. I&#8217;m just fine with my Fiji Bitter and my nightclub (which mind you, is actually a Bar with dancing space. <a href="http://www.niagarafallscomfort.com/wp-content/themes/ci/images/rumours-nightclub.jpg" rel="nofollow">THIS</a>, on the other hand&#8230;is a Nightclub.)</p>
<p>PS: That HBO bit was a joke. But seriously&#8230;we really need to get HBO. <a href="http://www.google.com.fj/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=4&amp;ved=0CCsQFjAD&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hbo.com%2Fthe-pacific%2Findex.html&amp;ei=Rv0NTJjUKNS6nAegmvnHDQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNEjTUv4Qd59vCISd_mlBTEWIzoCRg" rel="nofollow">&#8220;The Pacific&#8221;</a> was some great shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Some Angry Fiji Indian Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.failedparadise.com/2008/09/6-signs-fiji-is-nearing-civilization-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-1045</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Angry Fiji Indian Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 04:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-1044&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1044&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wilson&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
          @Some Angry Fiji Indian Guy
We don’t have HBO.
Also, please re-read the post. Especially the last bit.
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I don&#039;t think HBO is even available in Australia and New Zealand. Correct me if I am wrong on this. Does every country need to have HBO? 

Can you specify what you mean by rereading the post and what bit actually needs to be reread? It will make a lot of things easier. 

By that if you mean the bunch of domestic operators, then in reality there are a lot of domestic operators in Fiji. You could always check the 2010 Fiji Yellow Pages. Online Yellow Pages for Fiji wouldn&#039;t give a good result unless you type the actual name of the airline. 

If you mean Air Pacific being 46.32% owned by Qantas, then the Fiji Government still owns a majority of 51% and so it still is the Airline of Fiji. 

Anywhere you feel I am wrong, do correct me.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-1044" rel="nofollow">Wilson</a> :</strong><br />
          @Some Angry Fiji Indian Guy<br />
We don’t have HBO.<br />
Also, please re-read the post. Especially the last bit.
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<p>I don&#8217;t think HBO is even available in Australia and New Zealand. Correct me if I am wrong on this. Does every country need to have HBO? </p>
<p>Can you specify what you mean by rereading the post and what bit actually needs to be reread? It will make a lot of things easier. </p>
<p>By that if you mean the bunch of domestic operators, then in reality there are a lot of domestic operators in Fiji. You could always check the 2010 Fiji Yellow Pages. Online Yellow Pages for Fiji wouldn&#8217;t give a good result unless you type the actual name of the airline. </p>
<p>If you mean Air Pacific being 46.32% owned by Qantas, then the Fiji Government still owns a majority of 51% and so it still is the Airline of Fiji. </p>
<p>Anywhere you feel I am wrong, do correct me.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.failedparadise.com/2008/09/6-signs-fiji-is-nearing-civilization-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-1044</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Some Angry Fiji Indian Guy

We don&#039;t have HBO.

Also, please re-read the post. Especially the last bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Some Angry Fiji Indian Guy</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have HBO.</p>
<p>Also, please re-read the post. Especially the last bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Some Angry Fiji Indian Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.failedparadise.com/2008/09/6-signs-fiji-is-nearing-civilization-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Angry Fiji Indian Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude we have everything in Fiji. We have:

(1) Swimming pools - both Olympic Pool in Suva City and the Aquatic Center at Laucala Bay.  

(2) Universities - 3 of them. University of the South Pacific (USP), Fiji National University (FNU) and University of Fiji (UoF).

(3) Fast food restaurants - McDonald&#039;s (1 in Nadi, 2 in Suva), KFC and Pizza Hut (2 in Suva), Wishbone and Pizzaking, Nando&#039;s, Chicken Express, etc.

(4) Nightclubs.

(5) Air-conditioned buses making Suva to Nadi trips. 

(6) Free-to-air channels with Sky Pacific and PBS as satellite pay tv operators.

(7) 3 Internet Service Providers - Connect Fiji, Unwired and Kidanet.      

(8) 3 cell phone operators - Vodafone, Inkk and Digicel.

(9) Wildlife and traditional parks - Kula Eco Bird Park and Orchid Island. 

(10) Our own airline - Air Pacific with a bunch of domestic operators e.g Pacific Sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude we have everything in Fiji. We have:</p>
<p>(1) Swimming pools &#8211; both Olympic Pool in Suva City and the Aquatic Center at Laucala Bay.  </p>
<p>(2) Universities &#8211; 3 of them. University of the South Pacific (USP), Fiji National University (FNU) and University of Fiji (UoF).</p>
<p>(3) Fast food restaurants &#8211; McDonald&#8217;s (1 in Nadi, 2 in Suva), KFC and Pizza Hut (2 in Suva), Wishbone and Pizzaking, Nando&#8217;s, Chicken Express, etc.</p>
<p>(4) Nightclubs.</p>
<p>(5) Air-conditioned buses making Suva to Nadi trips. </p>
<p>(6) Free-to-air channels with Sky Pacific and PBS as satellite pay tv operators.</p>
<p>(7) 3 Internet Service Providers &#8211; Connect Fiji, Unwired and Kidanet.      </p>
<p>(8) 3 cell phone operators &#8211; Vodafone, Inkk and Digicel.</p>
<p>(9) Wildlife and traditional parks &#8211; Kula Eco Bird Park and Orchid Island. </p>
<p>(10) Our own airline &#8211; Air Pacific with a bunch of domestic operators e.g Pacific Sun.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.failedparadise.com/2008/09/6-signs-fiji-is-nearing-civilization-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-661</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very important point Irishfella lol Point well made indeed ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very important point Irishfella lol Point well made indeed <img src='http://www.failedparadise.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: irishfalla</title>
		<link>http://www.failedparadise.com/2008/09/6-signs-fiji-is-nearing-civilization-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-660</link>
		<dc:creator>irishfalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm, dont forget fiji now has locally made porn too!. lolz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm, dont forget fiji now has locally made porn too!. lolz.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.failedparadise.com/2008/09/6-signs-fiji-is-nearing-civilization-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-629</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very valid points nandni O_o As per usual, i wasn&#039;t thinking much of education, taking USP for granted. Never again &gt;&lt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for MHCC - weeeeelllll yeah but we&#039;ve had shopping malls of various sizes for awhile now (if i recall, Boulevard was the first one that had the kaicolo factor, tv ads and roasted cone ice cream) so i would consider MHCC an upgrade, though a rather substantial, airport quality one ^_^&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course, opinions may differ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very valid points nandni O_o As per usual, i wasn&#39;t thinking much of education, taking USP for granted. Never again &gt;&lt;</p>
<p>As for MHCC &#8211; weeeeelllll yeah but we&#39;ve had shopping malls of various sizes for awhile now (if i recall, Boulevard was the first one that had the kaicolo factor, tv ads and roasted cone ice cream) so i would consider MHCC an upgrade, though a rather substantial, airport quality one ^_^</p>
<p>Of course, opinions may differ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nandni</title>
		<link>http://www.failedparadise.com/2008/09/6-signs-fiji-is-nearing-civilization-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-627</link>
		<dc:creator>Nandni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fiji Has USP and FIT????as far as education goes, Uni degrees are recognized around the south Pacific..Vinaka Fiji&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oh and also did any of you notice MHCC?mini shopping mall...what say??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fiji Has USP and FIT????as far as education goes, Uni degrees are recognized around the south Pacific..Vinaka Fiji</p>
<p>Oh and also did any of you notice MHCC?mini shopping mall&#8230;what say??</p>
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		<title>By: Peceli and Wendy's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.failedparadise.com/2008/09/6-signs-fiji-is-nearing-civilization-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-626</link>
		<dc:creator>Peceli and Wendy's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a distance now, but we were in Fiji three weeks ago. I was astonished by the activities of our grandkids - it&#039;s all about video games, mobile phones, etc. The life of their parents was so different - mucking about on a beach, fetching coconuts, etc. Is it better today though?&lt;br/&gt;Suva has changed since the days I lived in Amy Street,Toorak - no bars on windows, no locks at all then. However the internet cafes are great and the food is still delicious especially at the Tiri Restaurant with the catering students.&lt;br/&gt;w.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a distance now, but we were in Fiji three weeks ago. I was astonished by the activities of our grandkids &#8211; it&#8217;s all about video games, mobile phones, etc. The life of their parents was so different &#8211; mucking about on a beach, fetching coconuts, etc. Is it better today though?<br />Suva has changed since the days I lived in Amy Street,Toorak &#8211; no bars on windows, no locks at all then. However the internet cafes are great and the food is still delicious especially at the Tiri Restaurant with the catering students.<br />w.</p>
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		<title>By: Picky Eater</title>
		<link>http://www.failedparadise.com/2008/09/6-signs-fiji-is-nearing-civilization-quality/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>Picky Eater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We still have 1 big impediment to being declared truly civilised: speed/road humps on &#039;national highways&#039;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Seriously! WTF?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Potholes are natures way of getting back at us; a shortage of road lanes: nothing but a reminder that most of us don&#039;t pay tax ... but road humps on highways: that&#039;s active human stupidity at it&#039;s most uncivil.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When our highways don&#039;t have road humps, don&#039;t detour through every village, and don&#039;t conspire to prevent a steady 80km/h between Suva and Nadi ... then, and only then, will we ready to stand naked and unashamed on the threshold of civilisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We still have 1 big impediment to being declared truly civilised: speed/road humps on &#8216;national highways&#8217;</p>
<p>Seriously! WTF?</p>
<p>Potholes are natures way of getting back at us; a shortage of road lanes: nothing but a reminder that most of us don&#8217;t pay tax &#8230; but road humps on highways: that&#8217;s active human stupidity at it&#8217;s most uncivil.</p>
<p>When our highways don&#8217;t have road humps, don&#8217;t detour through every village, and don&#8217;t conspire to prevent a steady 80km/h between Suva and Nadi &#8230; then, and only then, will we ready to stand naked and unashamed on the threshold of civilisation.</p>
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